Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Ex-Pat » Sat May 19, 2018 11:03 pm

Very interesting Jim that you have mini tracks on the upper level - it makes me wonder if Hawick had similar - if only I could find photos of Hawick!

The only interior view I've found is of that at Didcot ( https://l7.alamy.com/zooms/f4d395fa3c31 ... ba89d1.jpg ) but that doesn't appear to have mini tracks (unless they are very short and confined to the actual tipping zone and masked by that sunlight!) , even though the small wagons look as though they are made for tracks.

What prototype photos have you come across please?

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Sun May 20, 2018 1:11 pm

Hi Ex-Pat, the only pictures I have come across are the run of the mill google stuff,
nothing really showing the interiors. The tracks were just what I fancied really, as
this build is fictional.

If I come across any though I'll let you know.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Ex-Pat » Sun May 20, 2018 2:15 pm

Thanks Jim - it might be a trick that real-life railways missed out on!

One thing for certain is that some sort of mechanism is required to stop the tub itself falling into the tender. I'm thinking of writing to Didcot to ask for the dimensions of their tubs.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Sun May 20, 2018 3:38 pm

This is a photo I found of the inside of didcot coaling facility if it's of any use Ex-Pat
it shows a couple of their tubs (and a lack of track inside) :?

http://www.deejay51.com/didcot_rail_centre_p2.htm

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby luckymucklebackit » Sun May 20, 2018 3:56 pm

Looks great Jim - the rails make a great detail.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Sun May 20, 2018 4:16 pm

Cheers Jim, it's getting there, giving it a coat of paint today!

A couple of pics showing good detail of carts etc. (look at the shovel in pic one, it's huge).

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/389/192 ... 5002_b.jpg

https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8685/17 ... 3c70_b.jpg

https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7792/17 ... fb16_b.jpg

https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7299/91 ... 0177_b.jpg

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Ex-Pat » Sun May 20, 2018 5:36 pm

Thanks Jim - farm9 is definitely a hit and miss affair!

I've already written to Didcot to ask if they can give me dimensions of the tubs (and also whether any ended up in the tenders - that was before I saw your last lot of photos showing the curved up end of the tipping plate which should prevent that from happening).

If I get dimensions I'll pass them on.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby carnehan » Sun May 20, 2018 6:57 pm

Jim, you’ve got to slow down or you’re going to run out of things to build. Another superb one in the offing though. The Faller system could maybe be put to use in making those little wagons movable in the shed!

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Dad-1 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:29 pm

Jim,

Has nobody told you that as we get older we should slow down !
I just can't keep up with you - and that's just looking at the posted
pictures !!!

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby manna » Mon May 21, 2018 10:17 am

G'Day Gents

The picture of Didcot, looks like the tubs run in a channel !.

I have seen other pictures of coal stages like the Didcot one, but they ran on rails, and to stop the tubs ending up in the tender the rails were upturned at the end of the run, and the bucket then tipped the coal into the tender.
I used to work with a coalman (tub filler) at Eastleigh, he used to shovel the coal from the coal wagon over his shoulder into the tub without looking, a 16 ton wagon took all day.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Bufferstop » Mon May 21, 2018 11:09 am

I can see why they would prefer rails over channels, harder to block with bits of coal. The wheels on the tubs may well have been double flanged. The upturned end of the rail acted as both a stop and a fulcrum point for tipping the tub. It was still a labour intensive, filthy, heavy job.
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Mon May 21, 2018 2:09 pm

Thanks for that Ex-Pat.
Paul and Geoff, I try not to rush my builds, it's just the comfortable speed I work to really.
And yes I am rapidly running out of builds for Millsend, but, I do have a hankering to build
a seaside terminus station, late sixties BR, with long excursion platforms overgrown with weeds
in a run down condition, canopy windows missing, neglected station building etc., as a diorama to
display locos and rolling stock in my basement railway room.
manna and Bufferstop thanks for your comments.

A few pics of the coal hole building after weathering. I've also added coal to the hopper
and conveyor system (even though I don't think they ever existed in reality), but they
did on Millsend due to lack of space for conventional ramp with line system.

Happy with how it's turned out, next will be removing the old coal platform from the
layout and rejigging the land to fit building into place.

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Roof removed to show the hopper and conveyor system
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Coopslner » Mon May 21, 2018 9:39 pm

:shock: jim again fantastic build and detail. The prototype that I will be modelling is also a bit of a mystery interns of how the coal was moved. I can only presume either a similar method to yours or a hoist crane. The one in slack lane had a level road for the wagons with coal to the engine that would be receiving. It also doubled as a water tower with a water crane under the very ramshackle type wooden structure at the attached to the front. I have seen a picture with a sort of chute. But the point I am trying to make is that it's very possible every railway adapted these buildings to the needs required and the space available, with the method of coal delivery unique in many instances... Maybe?!? Bah rule 1 I say!
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Great build again!

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Wed May 23, 2018 8:44 pm

Thanks for your comments Coops and good luck building that coal drop.

Thought I'd show a few shots of the building, now bedded in on the layout.

This first set are with the depot empty, with coal and coal dust pva'd into place,
with plenty of overspill here and there, caused by the hit and miss loading, confirmed
by the pictures of the real thing I've seen recently :wink:

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Wed May 23, 2018 8:46 pm

The second set of photos show all the locos back in the depot where they belong.

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