Askham Railway 00 Gauge Shelf Layout -New cricket pavillion!

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Askham Railway 00 Gauge Shelf Layout -New cricket pavillion!

Postby YorkRail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:14 am

Morning all, I'm new to the forums, and I'm about to attempt to build my first layout. When I was younger my Dad built a layout so I've always enjoyed model railways and have a vague idea of what I'd like to do.

Firstly I'll explain what kind of space I'm looking at. I've recently moved into a cottage near York, about 30 miles from the start of the North York Moors Railway at Pickering. Running around 3 sides of my living room I have a small dado rail near the ceiling, about 7 and a half feet from the ground, and it's about 3 inches wide, due to the ceiling I can't build any of the buildings higher than about 5-6 inches. I've cut some wood to size to fit on the dado rail, and in the corners I've made kind of a triangle shape (pics to follow soon!!) so I have a little more room in these areas. Overall space is limited, there isn't room for double tracks (other than the fiddle yard) and I'm having to compromise with the stations, ultimately at the end of the day I don't want the layout to look too busy. Although N gauge might work better, I have lot's of 00 gauge left over from my younger days plus I've bought all the track.

History Time! The NYMR is 18miles long, there are 6 stations: Pickering (Terminus), Levisham, Newton Dale Halt, Goathland, Grosmont and Whitby (Terminus). The line was closed in 1965, then reopened in 1973 by the usual mix of volunteers, donations etc. It's featured in Harry Potter, Heartbeat etc. Apparently it's the busiest steam heritage line in the world (well, according to wikipedia anyway!).

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Although I'd love to fit all the stations into my layout, it will look too crowded. I think having open space between the stations will give it the rugged look of the Moors. I've picked Pickering, Goathland and Whitby as the three stations I'll be including, I think whichever way I look at it, it makes sense to have the two end stations (Pickering/Whitby), and Goathland seems to be the most recognisable (Harry Potter!), I'd love to include Grosmont station as well but I just don't have the space, instead I've included Grosmont tunnel.

Hopefully the attached rough diagram works. My plans are
Fiddle Yard: I can squeeze double tracks into the fiddle yard, and I'll be building it on it's own small section of wood so I can switch the fiddle yard around, so both tracks can be lined up with the main track.
Pickering Station: Always liked this building, luckily the station buildings seems narrow so I should just fit the building into the small space. I can't fit a bridge in unfortunately, and I'll only be able to fit in the one platform.
Goathland Station: I believe this station model is available to buy. Again, I can't fit in the other platform or the bridge and Im having to build it on a bit of a bend, a bit of a compromise but it should look good. Hopefully I can squeeze the signal box in too.
Engine Shed/Sidings: On both sides of Goathland station there are sidings/sheds, so I've managed to squeeze in a 3 track engine shed.
Scenery/Moorland: Using flexitrack I'll be weaving the track a little here through trees/moorland to give it the right character.
Grosmont Tunnel: I'm not sure how many tunnels there are on the NYMR but this seems to be the one that stands out, again in real life the tunnel isn't not curved but as long as I get the right feel it should look fine. I'm hoping to fit in the River Esk running under the track here after the tunnel exit, it all depends if I have the room.
Whitby Station: I think the facade on Whitby station looks lovely, and will be a fitting end to my layout. The station won't be to scale but the end facade should make it instantly recognisable. Tthe facade on the side of the station where the platform is won't be viewable. My final compromise, one platform instead of two.

One final note to make, it won't be DCC operated, just manual, again this is due to space and lack of finance. I only have one area with a few sets of points in anyway so it should be fine.

So, wish me luck, I'll have photos coming soon and hopefully my long ramblings will make a little more sense if you are struggling to visualise the space I have available! :)
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby TK421 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:05 pm

Welcome to the forum, sounds like an ambitious project but a beautiful bit of railway to model. How big is the total area you have for your layout?
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby YorkRail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:46 pm

Thanks for the welcome, you have me thinking now! If I were to put the layout on one, long straight, I'm looking at about 30ft in length, and a matter of inches wide (apart from the 2 corners).

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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby TK421 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:22 pm

That's a good size, will you be running short trains I assume anything full length and one station will eat up a good 12ft of that space.
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby YorkRail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:32 pm

Yes, due to my budget I'll be leaving all the rolling stock till the end (I have a few coal wagons etc and some shunters), then it's just a matter of finding the shorter carriages. I'm also having to shortern the platforms otherwise they just won't fit. The Sir Nigel Gresley train is also on my list as that is currently running on the line.

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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby TK421 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:14 pm

That should work nicley and a good choice of loco I wouldn't mind getting that particular loco myself. If the line is to be preserved you could use the ratio coach kits as they do produce short wheel base carriages.
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby YorkRail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:32 pm

Priority is to get the tracks down then the stations done, luckily Goathland can be bought. I've got the platform all ready, out of the remaining wood, I'm just not sure how to go about building the station buildings at Pickering/Whitby. I'm guessing plasticard?

Anyway I've drawn a quick estimated (completely not to scale!!) diagram of the wooden baseboard which is in place so you know the space I'm working with. Maybe 30ft was an exaggeration...
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby Blue_2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:55 pm

Best of luck! Are you in God's county? :)
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby YorkRail » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:21 pm

I am indeed Sir! Just outside of York.

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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby hiffano » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:24 pm

Blue_2 wrote:Best of luck! Are you in God's county? :)

Israel?
Whoo, new job... big pay cut... but new job! yay

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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby Blue_2 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:14 pm

YorkRail wrote:I am indeed Sir! Just outside of York.

As am I, and indeed several other members of this here forum. You may encounter me lurking in Monk Bar Models sometime! :)

Hiffano, I'm sure the residents of Israel will be chuffed to learn they've been downgraded from a state to a county...! :P
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby TK421 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:46 pm

Blue_2 wrote:Hiffano, I'm sure the residents of Israel will be chuffed to learn they've been downgraded from a state to a county...! :P


These things happen :lol:
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby cgraham » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:30 pm

Yorkrail,
I modeled Goathland and had a great time. I chose to go with the Harry Potter theme and may have gotten a bit carried away.

Th prototype:
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The model:
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The Castle too: (Click on image below)
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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby whynot » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:31 am

"...about 7 and a half feet from the ground, and it's about 3 inches wide, "

Am I reading this right? If so, space saving for sure, but as for viewing/operating surely some disadvantages?

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Re: North York Moors Railway - My First Build! 00 Gauge

Postby YorkRail » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:01 pm

cgraham-thanks very much, I'd seen your thread before, if I can get mine even a quarter as realistic I'll be happy. If you get chance can you measure how deep the station building is please? I'd like to make sure I have sufficient room.

whynot-I'm afraid you are completely right, the overall view of the layout won't be great. I have a small stepladder and also the main stairs in my cottage lets you get a good view of one of the straights. At the moment I'm away for a week while I have central heating put in (it's been a cold winter!) but hopefully in a weeks time I'll be able to post a few pics and you'll see what I mean. I thought about leaving off the ballast, scenery etc, after all from the ground you can't see the detail but I know in my head I wouldn't be happy with it being half finished.

One final question...does anyone know any model shops/businesses who specialise in creating custom buildings? Alternatively is there anyone in the UK on here who would like to be commissioned to create Pickering and Whitby stations? I had a go over the weekend and I just don't have the skill or tools necessary, I'd rather pay someone to do a half decent job. I don't require the full stations (as I explained in my first post, I'm only including one platform from each station).


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