Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Fri May 25, 2018 3:06 pm

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The point of the above picture is nothing more than the drainpipe. Yeah so what? you are no doubt thinking, we've seen this stuff before! Well you would be right but modelling this sort of stuff is now a lot easier thanks to some useful bits from Alan at Modelu. See https://www.modelu3d.co.uk/product-cate ... -fittings/
I still need to add the actual gutters yet.
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Speaking of Modelu a couple of Alan's figures discuss the latest delivery of real ale to the pub. The chaps umbrella is actually a parasol intended for Z gauge. The lights and indicator on the lorry do work as can be seen in this little video of a wander around the layout.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/LfekBjT5nQg
For those who like to see things, here's a daylight version too!
https://www.youtube.com/embed/DRAkiR4orTU

Finally a couple of images starting with Brettell road trying to impersonate a small depot somewhere!
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Dad-1 » Fri May 25, 2018 10:10 pm

Absolutely super modelling again Jim.
Thanks for sharing

Geoff T.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby burnie » Fri May 25, 2018 10:14 pm

Superb modelling

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Thu May 31, 2018 9:07 pm

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Originally I wasn't going to really have 'through trains' on Brettell Road - the through line was only going to be used by the industrial shunter but like most of the plans for this layout it all went a bit wrong. So now that the branch is used by BR as well it made sense to have a short parcels train. I had already done a LMS GUV from the Lima model but in another hark back to my childhood train set I always liked my Lima Siphon G as well. I'm not quite sure what happened to the original one I had but I found a bashed up one on Ebay for a few quid and set to work.
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The Lima body has had the lower vents added from the cooper craft (ex blacksmiths) etch. Kindly picked up for me from Scalefour southwest last year by Steve Carter of the Scalefour Society. The bogies are MJT on the brassmasters frames, as are the buffers, with small steps from the Frogmore Confederacy Range. The gangway is a Hornby DMU one which I cut into from the bottom and glued back together to give that characteristic drooped look.
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The other side with some of the vents left open.
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In terms of somewhere for the guard to sit, the good old Mainline LMS BG. just new handrails, glazing and underframe bits on this one.

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A couple of RTR wagons from Bachmann. The grain wagon has had its axleboxes replaces with Parkside spares and the brakes moved to line up with the wheels.
Finally below just a few images of my Jinty pottering about.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Mountain » Thu May 31, 2018 9:10 pm

Very good. It looks like its been a long term project there. The photos look as if the place is real. Very nice indeed.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Thu May 31, 2018 10:15 pm

Not really. Got the first stock for this less than 4 years ago. This was only supposed to be a distraction to new street which is my lifetime project.

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Mountain » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:06 pm

You have made rapid progress. Mind you, for me most of the work I have done on my layout has been daydreaming! :D
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby flying scotsman123 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:35 pm

Jim S-W wrote:After Scaleforum i became aware that the vegetation on Brettell Road probably was a bit to green and lush for a late October setting. To remind you roughly what it looked like back then here are a few images from earlier in the layout build.
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Hi Jim, I don't suppose you could give a "recipe" for your grass that you thought was slightly too green? I'm having difficulty finding anything even remotely muted in colour, ordered a few bags off the website you linked to but wan't happy. What you've got there looks just right for what I'd like - which colours exactly did you use? Many thanks.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:18 pm

Hi

The base was hanging basket liner. Over that was various scatters but the main element was mini-nature spring stratic grass.

HTH

Jim
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:18 pm

Afraid there's nothing new in this post, just tweaks of things already seen.
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Ok so you can't see this one really but in testing the parcels stock shown last time, this point wasn't as reliable as I liked. I have a view that all stock should go everywhere and while the parcels stuff probably wont run over this point at shows. it did show up the problem. To be honest its always been not quite right so having tracked down the problem to the nearest point blade the old one was removed and a new one filed up and put in its place. The old one and a few dead chairs can be seen in the ballast and I thought why not let the layout have a bit of its own history, so they are now firmly glued there.
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Looking the other way nothing more than a bit of oily track. After the initial coats of track grime and gunmetal I treated it with AK interactive wet effect and engine oil.
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At the recent Derby Show (where we were showing Moor Street) my friend and fellow layout operator Paul pointed out that railcar 14 had lamp irons on the nose. I dunno how I missed this. So given that I hadn't sorted the horns either (should be 4 not 2) I have set to work. I also found that there were cab end handrails and Dapol had missed the double door handrails as well.
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Another small tweak that I've been meaning to do is to sort out the cab side windows on the class 20. The original Bachmann ones slid open and like most RTR gimmicks were a bit naff. So using a spare pair of window frames from Extreme Etches that I had lying around I've fixed this little bug bear.
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My Derby lightweight was always a bit of a rush job for Scaleforum. The gap between the vehicles being much too big was the main eyesore!
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Closed up and a masokits gangway fitted.
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Another problem was that the on board lights lit up the cab. Some simple blinds from black paper resolved that.
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Moving on to the warehouse. I've finished the guttering and added a low handrail along the top of the wall. Although Brettell Road is set well before the health and safety culture we have now there was still a reasonable chance of a driver falling off the wall!
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A bit of the gutter has fallen off at some point. So some water stains and higher weeds below are the results.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:55 pm

Jim S-W wrote:Hi

The base was hanging basket liner. Over tha5 wasvarious scatters but the main element was mini-nature spring stratic grass.

HTH

Jim


Ah, that's why I couldn't find anything there that matched! Thanks.

And superb pictures again, I like the idea of the old point blade being left there, as you say, conveys a bit of history to the scene.
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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:14 pm

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I've always liked bubble cars (let's be honest, who doesn't?) and i recently stumbled across a cheap Lima class 121 so Brettell Road will get a class 122 to play with. Here it is ready for paint.

The roof has had the grooves filled (not sure why lima did this when the retooled the 117 as the roof was the only bit of that model they got right ) with new vents from MJT. The cab domes are spares from the DC Kits 304 kit with my own etched fronts. The exhausts are spares from Dapol (with thanks to Geoff of Western Thunder for pointing out they were available as spares.) and the headcode boxes are microstrip. Buffers are from 51L and the bogies are Hornby class 110 as per most of my DMU's. Buffer steps are my own etch and the underframe had has some strategic holes drilled in it to open it up a bit.

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby manna » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:33 am

G'Day Gents

Very nice, the old 'Bubble' cars lasted well.

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:03 pm

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A long time ago now I started work on 3 motorail coaches for New Street. The motorail train at 15 coaches will be the longest on the layout. The first coach was relatively easy (the blue and grey one in the picture) but the blue ones stalled because I wanted to do the ones that had Mk1 style divided windows. I got as far as drawing up and etch but never got it actually produced. However Brian of Extreme etches has done a set of window frames for the BG coach and these are the same so i can finally tick these 2 off as well. Some standard GUVs had these windows too so ill be doing some of those as well.

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Re: Birmingham New Street and Brettell Road in P4

Postby Jim S-W » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:07 pm

I was kind of hoping to avoid a repaint on the bubble car even thought the lining was closer to a class 121 than a 122, but when tried to remove the number and the roundels (which were off register) the underlying paint came with it so a repaint it was.
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I toyed with doing 55012 as it has a local significance. Being one of a few bubble cars that on the Stourbridge Town shuttle had a bit of a problem and ended up hanging over the road (see https://www.flickr.com/photos/69498057@N03/6353358089) but ironically I had already done it for New Street. I don't recall selecting it specially so 55018 it was instead.
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