Starlingford - The End of the Line

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Lewis Nash
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Re: Starlingford

Postby Lewis Nash » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:52 pm

WOW :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
its big enough to keep you buisy building for years,all the ballasting! :lol: :D
great work there. :)

cheers

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Metrocamel » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:16 pm

Awesome layout, and sooooo much space! :shock:

Love the Osprey in the helicopter lineup. :wink:
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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:03 am

Hi again everyone after such a long absence! I've been back in Ireland (and also Venice - I now know more than I wanted to about modelling canals) and thus I return to the forum with - pics!

I have of course been working on Starlingford. I have 21 pics for you, but I'll upload them in the next few days rather than all at once. So how about this for a kick-off? I've invested in several sets of Preiser's wonderful figures, and here is a pic that shows why: Hornby King Arthur 'Excalibur' now has a crew!

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Adding figures, though fun (all six Pullmans now have passengers, averaging 25 per coach for 150 in the train - so many little legs to cut off!) wasn't the task I set myself, though. I wanted to get some scenery done. To that end, I began building the light-railway-served quayside:

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Measuring and cutting this was an awful job, as the quayside had to wrap around various bridge supports not all of which were neatly perpendicular, and the quayside track on top has an S-curve to get it under the curved bridge above. This then has to be dealt with when cutting the corrugated cardboard onto which the Metcalfe cobblestones are glued, and equally the cobblestones have to match the trackwork! Aargh!

Eventually, though, the base, track and cobbles were laid. The next thing to add were fishermans' huts from Harburn Hamlet. Of course, such a scene would be incomplete without fish, so look out for the same company's fish boxes next to the suspension bridge:

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Just visible above are yet more Preiser figures, this time from their 'dockyard' scene. They are more evident below, in two pictures I took to illustrate the virtues of measuring everything (and the wisdom of websites that provide footprint sizes for the buildings they sell!). As you can see, the clearances are extremely tight - just like real life!

More anon,
Gavin

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:51 am

With the basic structure of the quayside now in place, it was time to think about the ground - and ground cover - immediately next to it. On Marlbrook, the Aberdonian layout, I had adopted Eldavo's idea (as seen on his superlative 'Cramdin Yard') of using Homebase hanging basket liner to simulate long grass. However, I found the liner too pale for my taste - although Cramdin Yard works brilliantly as a dry industrial landscape, both Marlbrook and Starlingford needed richer colours. To that end, I added trees, lichen and scatter to make more complex, layered foliage. The technique is simple, particularly if you're using Woodland Scenics products.

1. Glue (I used 'Loctite' superglue) down the bases of the trees, having first put the trees in them to check clearances and distances!
2. Over the bases glue (I used 'Copydex') the hanging basket liner, which you have cut to shape beforehand. Remember, the grassy side goes DOWN. You will peel off the green backing to leave you with the grass sticking up.
3. Peel off the green backing and with a craft knife make x-shaped cuts over the sockets for the tree trunks. Then scrape away the grass to leave them clear.
4. Glue (Copydex again) down lichen or other bushes.
5. Spray the area with white glue (I used Woodland Scenics's 'Scenic Cement') and sprinkle over your scatter material. I used Woodland Scenics Fine Turf Grass, which is very fine and a lovely dark colour. I applied it both on the hanging basket liner and the lichen.
6. Place the trees in their sockets. You are done!
Don't worry about not completely covering everything with scatter: the variation in coverage makes it look, if anything, even more realistic.

Here are some pics:

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As you can see, an Ebay-obtained low relief factory has appeared for the industrial corner (I have two Metcalfe half-relief factories awaiting construction too). It will be set down into cobblestones in which the sidings are buried. As you can see from the next pic, the overgrown grass comes right up to the rails themselves:

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With the quayside built and the ground cover above organised, all that was left to do was marry the two. To do so, I used soft corrugated cardboard which I covered with Superquick stone walling -effect paper (Copydex again) and glued into place. In the picture below you can see Hornby Skaledale cable drums resting up against the wall. The Skaledale range of accessories is impressive, but too expensive to make regular use of, methinks...

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Have fun all,
Gavin
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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:09 pm

With the quayside almost sorted, all that remained was the walling behind the fishermen's huts. Before that could be sorted, though, the castle above it had to be raised up in order to create a moat for the drawbridge. Enter the foamboard...

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The foamboard glued in place, it was time to add yet more of the stuff. I realised that the station needed to be embedded in the countryside - bring on the hot glue gun... Still, first things first - stone and foliage and long grass, followed by (finally!) the remaining quayside walling...

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:26 pm

Right! Raising the landscape...!

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The Pullman train is probably a little OTT for a troop-transport. This is perhaps a little more realistic:

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This is a lovely train - I was given the 61xx years ago as a birthday present but was only recently the recipient of two GWR coaches. It works perfectly with the old Hornby-Dublo station.

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Terrier » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:45 pm

WOW!!! ....that is becoming one top layout my friend!! ...the quayside seen under the bridges i like particularly, but that is just a small part of what you've got going on there ....top stuff! :D

(still jealous about the space! :wink: )

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:27 am

Some more castley landscapey photos.

The Moat, now dry and overgrown (don't worry, the drawbridge hasn't been entirely painted yet!):

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Staff car under escort being delivered to the castle:

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General overview of the landscape, showing castle's cobbled interior (and also, strangely, a Canadian rescue EH-101 helicopter):

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:14 pm

And now, some pretty pretty pictures, for no real reason at all:

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Enjoy!
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Re: Starlingford

Postby sarah » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:30 pm

Hi.

Nice layout.

One thing about the Suspension Bridge.

When Tri-ang first made the Victorian Suspension Bridge, they were also making the Overhead Electric Catenery stuff. The hoops provided with the bridge were to support the overhead wires, they should have a "notch" in the underside top of the hoop. The wires clipped into these notches. I don't know what the instructions say (having never had one of these bridges, no room, etc. :roll: ), but the hoops are not really needed. That said, just about every picture I have seen of these bridges has the hoops fitted. I think Hornby say they are for lighting?

Not being picky with your bridge, it's just that I thought people may like to know about the hoops! :)

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Pete » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:27 pm

Hi

Is that station a die cast Hornby one? I came across a very tatty one recently in a box of old toys at my M-inlaw's. Do you know anything about it? Is it based on an actual station, it looks quite art deco, but it also has a French feel about it, I wonder if it was originally a Hornby France HO model?

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:32 pm

Hi guys!

Sorry Pete - no idea about the history of the old Hornby Station. I suspect mine is probably about 40 years old by this stage, having belonged to my father and his brothers, which means that its good condition is little short of miraculous! I keep debating as to whether or not to add 'glass' to the windows, etc. I wouldn't want to devalue it.

Sarah, you're quite right. When I got the bridge Hornby was still making the catenary system. My plan now is to use fishing line on the telegraph poles that are visible in some of the above pics, and to run the 'wires' through the hoops to connect to the telegraph poles on the other side of the 'lough'. I have no idea if this is even remotely prototypical, but it makes sense to an armchair engineer like myself...!

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Re: Starlingford

Postby sarah » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:00 pm

Re. Hornby Dublo station.

As far as I know, the HD buildings were not based on any one prototype (I'd had thought if this was so, the prototype would most probably have been in the Liverpool area?). They are nice though, and at least one Signal Box has been modded into a Southern railway 1930s type. The SR 1930s concrete structures are quite close to the HD buildings, and the footbridge is spot on for SR!

Re. Telegraph wires. In the "real world", the wires would most probably have a termination pole on either side of the bridge(s), and the cables taken across in troughing or conduits.

As a good use for the hoops on the model though....good thinking that man! :wink: Sounds good to me. :)

(I really like that area around the bridges!)

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:26 am

A video! (If I can get it to work... :? )

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This shows perfectly what I like most about Starlingford - the movement, the landscape, and the idealised re-capturing of something that was lovely to begin with. 'Cheshire', a locomotive I have wanted for a very long time, is still one of my favourites, and I think the video shows why. Enjoy!

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Re: Starlingford

Postby Black-Marlin » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:30 pm

One of the really nice things about a layout the size of 'Starlingford' is the opportunity to run scale-length, or near-scale-length, trains. Enjoy the following....

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The locomotives/trains are
1. Lima Cl37 'Highland Region' + Hornby Intercity GUV + 5 Bachmann Intercity BR Mk1s;
2. Hornby N15 'Excalibur' + 5 Hornby Pullmans, & Hornby Princess Royal 'Lady Patricia' + Night Mail train;
3. Bachmann A4 'Mallard' + 9 Hornby Gresley teak carraiges, & Hornby N15 'Excalibur' + 5 Hornby Pullmans.

Choo choo!
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