Hornby Brighton Belle Released

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Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby michaelasc » Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:13 pm

Hi everyone
Just wanted to let you know that the Hornby Arnold N Gauge BR Class 403 ‘Brighton Belle Pullman’ 5 Car Train Pack has been released. Currently only the 1969 blue version is out but it looks terrific.

I ordered a set and eagerly await delivery.

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby skyblue » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:34 pm

I think this is only available directly from Hornby. I wonder if future N gauge Hornby products (if there are any) will be general releases or will follow this pattern.

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby georgehgv » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:07 pm

michaelasc wrote:Hi everyone
Just wanted to let you know that the Hornby Arnold N Gauge BR Class 403 ‘Brighton Belle Pullman’ 5 Car Train Pack has been released. Currently only the 1969 blue version is out but it looks terrific.

I ordered a set and eagerly await delivery.

Michael



Could well be wrong but it looks cream and brown on the link they sent me???
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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby michaelasc » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:54 pm

Yes, the cream and brown is now available too. They both are on sale for 199 quid and free postage. This is for a 5-car unit. Obviously a little more expensive than Dapol or Farish but we'll have to wait and see whether the build quality and motor is as good as Hornby claim it is. Certainly looking at the video on their website it shows lights inside the cab and lights in the candles at every window which is a first I believe. Looks like there is also a 2-car cream and brown coming out that will have different numbers to the 5-car set

Here are some links:

Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQePGnOevmI

Hornby page: http://www.hornby.com/shop/hornby-arnold-n-gauge.html

Anyone else ordered one?
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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby michaelasc » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:35 pm

Hello everyone, so I ordered both 5-car sets and they came this morning and what beautiful models they are. The painting is very well done with a lot of attention to detail. The details are painted on and not transfers. The 1934 set comes with headboards on both sides of the cars saying Brighton Belle - Victoria to Brighton. I also noticed on the Hornby website that there is now a 2-car unit comprised of powered driving motor third and a non-powered driving motor third. It looks like different car numbers which makes possible to have a 2 and 5 car combination or a 3 and 4 car combination. I will probably be getting the 2-car.

With lighting in the lamps between the seats in every window in all the cars this model is stretching the boundaries of N gauge modeling to a new high. There is even a light inside the driver's cab which is bi-directional by which I mean it is only lit in the direction of travel which makes sense. I do like these models and Hornby say the motor is sealed so needs no servicing and the gears only need oil every 100 hours. The driving car does have traction tyres set on the front and rear opposing wheels. Pick up seems to be all wheel on the driving car.

The coupling mechanism between the cars is different though as it incorporates a transfer of power from the driving unit to the second car which in turns transfers power to the third car all the way back to the driving trailer. So if you had the cars sitting on their own in a siding without the driving unit there would be no lights in the lamps which again would make sense.

There are a few downsides for me. First the motor is slightly noisy and a little jerky which I'm hoping will improve when they have been well and truly run in. Second, the handrails are molded as is the piping on the top, unlike the Farish Blue Riband which has all the pipework separate. Thirdly, while there is an NEM pocket with a fitted Rapido coupling there is no bag of additional parts with the expected alternate coupling. I just fitted a spare Dapol one.

Overall, in my opinion, these are superb models. Now I have to figure out how a Brighton Belle pullman could end up in the north west of England which is where my railway is set. Oh and if I did not tell you already, delivery is free all over the world (orders over 30 are free in UK and over 100 free to the world). Seeing at both the 2-car and 5-car sets are over 100 pounds then for me being in the US this saved me a lot on postage.

Hope this helps
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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby JohnN » Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:09 pm

That 5 BEL is looking very tempting. :? Likewise, I may need to invoke a large dose of IMR, IRWIL. :lol:

Thanks for posting the review too. :)

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby RobbieC » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:14 am

I wonder what the chances are for Hornby Arnold to produce Class 411 4 car CEP ,like Bachmann Farish or even a 2 car BIL or a 2 Car HAL. That might shake Bachmann Farish up a bit and Dapol for that matter. Still waiting for the Schools. Just a thought. :D

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby JohnN » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:52 am

Definitely agree about a 2BIL and 2HAL.

As we were going up to Atlantic Village at the weekend, we went into Bideford and popped into Osborns. Chatting with Michael, the Schools is looking like spring now. And don't get me started on the Manor or Grange. :?

BTW Rob, I got the Terrier chipped and received it about 4 months ago but still haven't run it due to the house rebuild. So frustrating.

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby RobbieC » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:28 pm

Hi, Glad you agree about the 2BIL etc. The Brighton Belle looks fantastic but the railway wallet won't stretch that far. :( Would still like to get the Class 411 4 CEP from Farish. You never know Christmas is coming. :lol: or I might just have to wait for the Schools. Birthday in May so you never know. Great to hear that you got the Terrier and that it's chipped. Something to look forward to, when the house is all complete. Rob

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby LittleReggie » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:07 am

These look superb and will be going on my wishlist. Seems a reasonable price for a 5 car set.

I have the Farish Class 411 4-CEP EMU and was slightly disappointed with it. It looks great but doesn't run that great in my opinion. However, that could just be me being too fussy. Also, I wanted to DCC mine and found it very hard to remove the body. The instructions say something like "pull off the body" - errrr no, it's not quite as simple as that! Worth thinking about if you are into DCC.

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby JohnN » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:09 pm

Interesting to know Reg, thanks. Mine is sitting in its box patiently waiting to be chipped.

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby LittleReggie » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:26 pm

Have a read of this before you tackle the conversion:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=43361

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby JohnN » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:48 pm

Thanks Reg. That's really useful, cheers for sharing. :)

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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby michaelasc » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:31 pm

Hi everyone. Beware of ads like this on EBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-Arnold-N-Gauge-SR-5-BEL-Brighton-Belle-Pullman-5-Car-Train-Pack-/161460416093?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2597ca6e5d

This guy is charging 250 for the set plus he wants another 10 pounds for shipping whereas on the Hornby website it is 199 and free shipping. He must have bought it from them for free shipping and now wants to make money on the shipping as well as charging more than an extra 50 for the set itself. I would never do this.

I somehow doubt that the warranty would be invalid because Hornby do not sell these via a third party.

Thoughts?
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Re: Hornby Brighton Belle Released

Postby LittleReggie » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:37 pm

That's the starting price for an auction too! On the one hand I think this is a bit dodgy, but on the other hand he is not breaking any rules and if someone is lazy enough not to check the real price of these things then maybe they get what they deserve? I am a bit OCD when it comes to researching the best price when internet shopping, but most people would at least compare a couple of prices.

michaelasc wrote:I somehow doubt that the warranty would be invalid because Hornby do not sell these via a third party.

Do you mean you doubt the warranty would be valid?

Regards.


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