N gauge 2012 wish list.

Discussion of N gauge model railway specific products and related model railway topics (problems and solutions). (Graham Farish, Dapol, Peco)
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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:54 pm

Well my wish list would be ...dcc ready 31... havent i read this before somewhere :wink: dcc ready deltic ,class 105 dmu that would be a must!! 501emu :lol: :lol: never happen! Anyway the 33? the farish shell is good ,so a dapol 26 chassis .... could cure that, although going the whole hog a dcc 33 from dapol would be good. :)

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby CaptainElectra » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:02 pm

A Class 55 to the same standard as the Deltic Prototype is top of my wish lists. We are reaching the point where the main diesel classes are pretty well covered, so it's really a case of re-doing what Farish did for us in the 1980s. A new 25, 31 and 33 would all sell very well, particularly with the liveries available.
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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:07 am

Absolutely adam absolutely :D

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:51 pm

To be fair, I believe they should retool all those that are not dcc ready from ....class 25 to 55. On the old large diesel line ,look how long these have been dc the 50 40 45 even the 08 /9. Class 52? DAPOL are releasing this soon dcc 'N' or is it 00 scale ?? All these i have mentioned are just as important as the locos already retooled

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby Grahame » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:19 pm

I think you'll find that there's less impetus now to re-tool older models just to make them DCC ready - after all it's not impossible to convert them (with the digihat etc.). And didn't Farish recently concede that they are going to concentrate on 'all new' products in future now that they've picked off (between them and Dapol with the class 56) the worst offenders in terms of accuracy and where most commercial benefit can be derived.

After all there are detailing kits readily available for many of the oldies. Plus the market for potential sales of retooled models has already been partially satisfied by the old models meaning there is less potential – not a good proposition for new product development in the current economic gloom.

I wouldn't be surprised if Farish just announce new locos they can shrink down from OO (where they've already done the research) such as a Freightliner class 70 diesel, the Windhoff MPV and the 2-EPB. Dapol would do well do consider the 4-VEP sharing Hornby's research (as they seem to do with other developments).

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:43 pm

I do have a 105 dmu but a farish or dapol for 2012 would be nice, as bachman have released this already in 00 .

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby THE CHIEF » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:25 am

Perhaps the 108 might see the NSE livery. Have peco given up on locos again?

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby Karhedron » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:12 am

THE CHIEF wrote:Perhaps the 108 might see the NSE livery. Have peco given up on locos again?

30-ish years since the Jubilee so their next loco should be due in 2037. :D

But in answer to your question, yes, Peco are not planning any more locos at the moment. The lukewarm sales of the 2251 put them off. Of course it may have been that non-DCC modellers objected to paying an extra £30 for a built-in chip. It also didn't help that in order to shoe-horn both motor and decoder into a tender, they chose a tender variant that ran with only a few members of the class and then only briefly.
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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby Karhedron » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:15 am

Grahame wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Farish just announce new locos they can shrink down from OO (where they've already done the research) such as a Freightliner class 70 diesel, the Windhoff MPV and the 2-EPB. Dapol would do well do consider the 4-VEP sharing Hornby's research (as they seem to do with other developments).

I suspect you are probably right. Mind you the 4-VEP has taken a fair bit of bashing for some inaccuracies (back-to-front bogies?). Hopefuly Dapol will take the opportunity to fix some of the more glaring errors if they decide to produce one in N gauge.
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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:21 pm

Hmmm, a 4vep seems worlds away for 'n' but a least We have the cep, thats great for going on with..... who knows what goodies will be announced for 2012 :) could do with some more road vehicles tk lorries transit vans ca's.

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby 1977joey » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:53 pm

Hi chaps,

I would love to see more livery's on the Class 150's such as the PTE's & especially the original light Blue provincial on the 150/1 & the 'Sprinter' running man livery on the 150/2.
A retooled class 158 would be great, especially in original Provincial/Regional Railways express livery :P
Also I think we're lacking Intercity livery on Mark 2 coaches, wether it be Swallow or Executive...especially seen as we have InterCity livery loco's available.

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby red death » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Re-tooled 158s, 170s, 31s etc - what happened to modelling? Not DCC ready - convert them, they are not at all difficult!

Sometimes I wonder what people really want from N gauge. I accept that I might want different, but hopefully we all want N gauge to thrive and more people to take it up.

Duplication of decent models is not going to achieve that - it will only waste precious development resources and potentially tie up cash. Re-tooling IMO is only worth while for absolute dogs eg 08, 37 and 47 (which also happen to be some of the most numerous).

The way to grow the scale is to fill the gaps and for that we are talking a whole plethora of electrics, multiple units and steam locos. New Mk2s would also be very welcome.

I would like to see: MPV, 70, 92, Pendolino, 321 but I am not holding my breath on the last 3!

I think it is reasonable to expect more shrinkages from Bach/Far: MPV, 70, 105, 85
Dapol already have a pretty full programme which I hope they can crack on with and finish off.

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:13 pm

I think it is reasonable to expect more shrinkages from Bach/Far: 105 which I hope they can crack on with and finish off.[/quote]

Redeath..... Fully agree about the 105 dmu ,as a bachmann shrink :wink:

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby 1977joey » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:22 pm

red death wrote:Re-tooled 158s, 170s, 31s etc - what happened to modelling? Not DCC ready - convert them, they are not at all difficult!

Sometimes I wonder what people really want from N gauge. I accept that I might want different, but hopefully we all want N gauge to thrive and more people to take it up.

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Unfortunatly, not all of us have the skills to do this, however easy it is. I havn't a clue where electrics & repainting models....especially N guage are concerned.
As this thread is called a "WISH" list, my post merely suggests the models i "WISH" for. We all obviously have different views...only some more strongly than others :?

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Re: N gauge 2012 wish list.

Postby Grahame » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:55 pm

1977joey wrote:
red death wrote:Re-tooled 158s, 170s, 31s etc - what happened to modelling? Not DCC ready - convert them, they are not at all difficult!

Unfortunatly, not all of us have the skills to do this, however easy it is.


Fortunately all the modelling skills necessary aren't particularly difficult and more importantly they can be learnt. Plus while you're developing them you'll gain even more enjoyment and satisfaction from the hobby. And you'll end up with models that no-one else has and will be the envy of others. However, it is a matter of having some gumption and having a go in the first place.

I produce a booklet called N'spirations that encourages people to have a go at some real modelling and explains how to go about it. But there are plenty of other places where you can get advise and help; try some of the good modelling books and DVDs, join a club, become a member of the N Gauge Society and so on.

Pluck up courage and have a go. :D
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