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Doing some research

Postby David80 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:05 pm

Hey all,

I hope you don't find this to be too intrusive but I'm carrying out a little research into the world of Railway modellers. If anyone is happy to answer a few questions please let me know...

thanks,
Dave

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Re: Doing some research

Postby End2end » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:23 pm

No.
Yes.
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Not with THAT glue!! :o :o
Hope it helps. :lol:

:lol: Just kidding.
Can you elaborate?
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Re: Doing some research

Postby David80 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:37 pm

Ha ha, thanks for taking the time to reply... I'm just conducting some research on the relationship between modellers and retailers (both online and off) and also get an understanding for how someone gets into railway modelling in the first instance?

Couple of the questions I have in advance...
Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists?
Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not?
Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping?
Do you buy any magazine related to modelling?

thanks again,
Dave

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Re: Doing some research

Postby End2end » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:47 pm

OK those I can do now. :)

Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists? - Neither. I consider myself a lowly modeller.
Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not? Yes
Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping? Yes for shopping and browsing.
Do you buy any magazine related to modelling? Rarely the main ones like Model Rail, BRM, et al unless there's a specific article I want to read, but I do pick up most copies of the Railway Magazine Guide To Modelling free paper (yes a paper!) available from most model shops although now available also online to read. I prefer the paper.

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Re: Doing some research

Postby David80 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:51 pm

Thanks so much!

If you have time just a couple of other things that might be a little more detailed.

How did you get into railway modelling?

Why do you buy online vs in store?

If you had to some up being a railway modeller in a sentence what would it be?

thanks,
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Re: Doing some research

Postby End2end » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:08 pm

How did you get into railway modelling? I had an Intercity train set with a double loop layout as a child and then got reinspired as an adult.

Why do you buy online vs in store? I buy from both but online is easier to price match to find the best price. I try not to make random purchases in a model shop, only buying what I went in there for although if I see a bargain I could be tempted.

If you had to some up being a railway modeller in a sentence what would it be? From the lowly train set to the full blown model railway layout, playing trains and making models is fun and rewarding.

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Re: Doing some research

Postby TimberSurf » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:13 pm

David80 wrote:Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists?
Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not?
Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping?
Do you buy any magazine related to modelling?

Some just put boxes on the shelf never to be opened, then die and sell off hundreds of brand new rolling stock! Others would classify themselves as hobbists as they run trains/construct layouts
If you don't have a layout - then you are a collector!
Like the rest of the world, shops are dying, online is the new shop. Of course we want the best of both worlds, free advice from the sage behind the shop counter, but the majority of purchases are online, as it's cheaper!
Paper magazine? Why? Thousands of vids, tutorials, pictures etc online, and tailored to your specific search or answered 1 to 1, like here now!

David80 wrote:How did you get into railway modelling?

Most have a connection from youth - family member, xmas train set, railway nearby, seems to be the common story
David80 wrote:Why do you buy online vs in store?

It's cheaper and way more choice!
David80 wrote:If you had to some up being a railway modeller in a sentence what would it be?

It's a hobby that ticks many boxes, collector, modellor, designer, constructor and researcher, that can open up into electrics, woodworking, mechanics, electronics, programming and a wealth of other disciplines to investigate and learn.
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Re: Doing some research

Postby David80 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:02 pm

Guys, thanks so much for your replies. I can see you're both really enthusiastic about modelling!

It's really very interesting to find out how someone gets in to this hobby.

One final question - do hobbies crossover?
Would someone who builds model railways for example also be an airfix type model builder or a die-cast car collector?

thanks,
Dave

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Re: Doing some research

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:21 pm

Good luck with your research

Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists? > for me it's only of items with a personal relevance.
Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not? > Yes
Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping? > Yes usually when I need to see/handle something before buying. If I use a model shop for this they get the sale.
Do you buy any magazine related to modelling? > Yes Railway Modeller for 64 yrs, still got them all.

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Re: Doing some research

Postby End2end » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:22 pm

I can only answer from a personal perspective. I may build an airfix model and buy a diecast car if it will fit in with my scale/look of my layout.
My other hobbies are far removed from modelling but skills I've gained in other areas like work etc. have crossed over.
Soldering
Audio/Sound
Wiring
Planning and design
Research
Organisation
Taking concepts and ideas through to reality

To name but a few.
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Re: Doing some research

Postby Mountain » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:24 pm

David80 wrote:Ha ha, thanks for taking the time to reply... I'm just conducting some research on the relationship between modellers and retailers (both online and off) and also get an understanding for how someone gets into railway modelling in the first instance?

Couple of the questions I have in advance...
Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists?
Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not?
Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping?
Do you buy any magazine related to modelling?

thanks again,
Dave


Hobbyist as in a railway modeller. (Collectors are a weird bunch who dont open the boxes and dont plan to run their trains!)
Use online like a catalogue. Online payments are far too risky. Learnt the hard way! I usually phone and write a cheque or pay over the phone by card. No phone number and no address on a website means no trade.
Rarely visit model shops these days. They rarely have the things I want. If I do it would be to buy.
Occasionally (About three times a year as funds allow) buy the Railway Modeller.

Due to a tight budget, I've turned to 7mm narrow gauge. The things I would buy are budget kits from Peco, Smallbrook Studio, Slimrails etc. I also buy wheels, donor locos like the Hornby "Smokey Joe" type shunters etc.
Enjoying 7mm narrow gauge.

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Re: Doing some research

Postby burnie » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:53 pm

Who/what is the research for?

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Re: Doing some research

Postby Emettman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:46 pm

Her's my first batch.

Do railway modellers consider themselves as collectors or hobbyists?
[bWe vary, but I'm not a collector and I wouldn't use the word hobbyist. "Enthusiast", perhaps ][/b]

Do you purchase railway models online? If not why not?
I have to: I'm housebound. I used to enjoy finding the battered and broken at toy fairs: they were my principal targets for purchase.


Do you visit model shops, if so what for? Community / Socialising / Shopping?
No longer possible (I'm housebound) but even before that local shops carried little I wanted except raw modelling materials: "bits".

Do you buy any magazine related to modelling?
No.

Chris
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Re: Doing some research

Postby Emettman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:53 pm

How did you get into railway modelling?
I did a bit when young, but it was being asked to build a layout for a godson, it being out of his dad's territory, which reminded me how much fun they could be. Especially, for me, unconventional ones.

Why do you buy online vs in store?
I'm not mobile!

If you had to some up being a railway modeller in a sentence what would it be?
It's fun and creative, and back when I was working it was nice to have an activity where it didn't really matter if you made a mistake or a bad decision, unlike the rest of the day!

Chris
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Re: Doing some research

Postby Mountain » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:32 pm

David80 wrote:Guys, thanks so much for your replies. I can see you're both really enthusiastic about modelling!

It's really very interesting to find out how someone gets in to this hobby.

One final question - do hobbies crossover?
Would someone who builds model railways for example also be an airfix type model builder or a die-cast car collector?

thanks,
Dave


They can cross over, though there are a few differences between both extremes. A hardcore railway modeller is likely to want to either scratchbuild or kitbuild and if he/she does buy ready made items they would usually want to modify them.
A collector will aim for a rarer model which they never take out of the box and even try to protect the box itself from damage.
Most in the hobby are in the middle of the two in that they mainly buy ready made models and while they do collect them, they will take them out of the box and use them (Or intend to use them if they are in between railway layouts).
I've over simplified the extremes as there are different types of modeller and different types of collector. Some modellers never have layouts and just enjoy building the models and some collectors will unbox their models to mount in a display case. Sometimes the two can blur as you may find a modeller who sees bargains and buys to store away and sell on in future years (It was once common to do this in the past (20 years ago) as the manufacturers would change the livery and the model each year and those who missed the models would be prepared to pay over the new price for unused secondhand models to get the loco in the livery they wanted. Since the internet came along this trade disappeared but has now partly reemerged. Before the internet there was one model railway shop which traded by buying in stock, holding it a few years and then would sell them at higher prices and the business was very popular back then. I've not seen the business advertise since the internet came along so I believe their segment of the market died?)
Enjoying 7mm narrow gauge.


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