Hornby 75 ton Cowans and Sheldon Questions

[TimberSurf]

Thanks Timberwolf I have been in contact with him and he can't help on this occasion

Here are some more to look into then

[Tom@Crewe]

Great help all. I have a Hornby R197 won on eBay for £23.95 inc postage and I have a set of transfers from Modelmaster.

Detailing will have to be scratch by the look of it, Just looking into motorisation and DCC control.
Trying to find a DCC chip to control 3 Converted small servos (forward and reverse for each) and perhaps lighting.

The project lives..........

[Mountain]

I think crane lovers will like this. The loco... Doesn't it remind you of a class 59 or 66?

https://youtu.be/fEEV5lrnB1E

[Tom@Crewe]

My Crane has now arrived..





I am still looking for Peter Tatlows - Railway Breakdown Crane's Vol. 2 (Just nothing about), Drawings and collecting reference pictures.

Its a slim chance but are there any steam versions still about?

[Mountain]

Somewhere I saw one of those Hornby cranes done up and detailed and it looked brilliant. Mind you. I rather love the look of it as it is.

[GreenBR]

Hello,
I think that Hornby my have done the steam version in the "Thomas" range at some point.
Regards

[End2end]

I think crane lovers will like this. The loco... Doesn't it remind you of a class 59 or 66?

https://youtu.be/fEEV5lrnB1E

Sheesh that's a lot of hard work just to fit a DCC chip.
Thanks
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[Tom@Crewe]

Motorising this is off the cards now I see the very limiting space

[Lysander]

Somewhere I saw one of those Hornby cranes done up and detailed and it looked brilliant. Mind you. I rather love the look of it as it is.

I have seen one of the earlier Hornby ones done up - painted black with GWR lettering and nicely weathered.

I think you’ll find any sort of motorising a non-starter however. The design doesn’t really allow for that.

Tony

[Mountain]

I think crane lovers will like this. The loco... Doesn't it remind you of a class 59 or 66?

https://youtu.be/fEEV5lrnB1E

Sheesh that's a lot of hard work just to fit a DCC chip.
Thanks
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Haha. Yes. Can you imagine the size of the decoder!

[Tom@Crewe]

Help I am looking for..........



... I can find it anywhere, if you know where I can get a copy please let me know (shop, library, private, to buy or borrow)

[End2end]

I searched high and low and although Volume 2 is listed on many sites none of them have any stock.
The nearest I could find was....
Volume 1 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Railway-Breakd ... 2570877715

And Volume 3
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Railway-Cranes ... 0697.m4697

Heres some more information on Volume 2:
Publisher: Crecy Publishing
Publication Date: 14/01/2013
ISBN: 9781906419974

Thanks
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[End2end]

Have you tried your local libraries? I found 11 libraries by using the search location of " Crewe ".
https://www.worldcat.org/title/railway- ... 50314?loc=

Also whilst searching I found this site. Might be of some interest or inspiration.
https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/heavydutycrane

And this is the site for the Breakdown Crane Association - http://www.bdca.org.uk/index.html

And just for completeness / more information - https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Cowans,_Sheldon_and_Co
Hope it helps
Thanks
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[Tom@Crewe]

Consider my head blown........
OK searching this morning for the book, info and pictures, I have found there is a Cowans and Sheldon crane not 1/2 a mile away. Crewe Heritage Centre has ADRC 96717 and 50 ton painted on the jib, steam converted to diesel and bright yellow, information from data files here says 45 ton.

I have been looking at the photographs and come to a radical conclusion.

If you take the Hornby R197 and want to detail it to a 75 ton crane, the end of the jib is wrong, the jib runner is wrong the cranes rotation point is wrong (the rear boiler housing hangs over the edge of the base)
Now if the Hornby R197 didn't have 75 ton on jib but had 50 ton then the jib, jib runner and rotation point would be right.

So my radical idea is that Hornby modelled (loosely) a 50 ton crane and stuck a 75 ton sticker on it.

Can people with more knowledge of these cranes have a look, could this be correct....

[End2end]

Great pictures. That second one just shows how massive it actually is.
Thanks
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