The Great Model Railway Challenge

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby Montfort » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:55 am

Unfortunately I can't watch absolutely nothing on Channel 5 website because I live on the dark side of the British Channel. :evil:
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby sishades » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:56 pm

Install browsec into your browser and you can watch anything .
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby Montfort » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:14 pm

Thanks ! I can watch all the videos. :D
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby Hymirl » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:26 pm

I liked it, I was concerned they would spend time trying to make the competitors look like weirdos but all the presenting staff and judges seemed really enthusiastic.

I was a bit disapointed the Jurassic Park theme was just random plastic dinosaurs, if they actually tried watching the film and using a couple of pre builds for recognisable set pieces like the big park gates and a tyranosaur paddock could have been awesome. Big missed opportunity, great tracklaying and terrain build.

The pre built layout was very very nice but they did bend the rules so thems the risks.

Agree with the winning team, it was a bit quick and dirty on the terrain front with the grass mat but it was mostly done and looked reasonable.

I can see the issue with allowing more time as you still have to cut it down to a TV program. And lets be honest how much time is 'enough'... :D

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby kevin sharpe » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:34 pm

Just got round to watching the show reminded me of a lot of clubs fair amount of skill shown and the right layout won on the day .Could you build a layout in 3 days take me a month to do the base board.At least it is opening our great hobby to the general public.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby Mountain » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:16 pm

I've made an N gauge layout in a day from the legs up, but it didn't have buildings and everything used was sectional track and ready to run except for the ballast and the scenery. (The scenery was basic scatter and the board was flat so it wouldn't win any awards).
The woodwork for the board was easily made as it was a 4x2 layout so didn't need much support. Mine wasn't really what some would call a completed layout but it depends on ones view. My layout did have backscenes which added a little dimension to it.
I have to say that I have seen others do excellent work in making a layout in a day. To be honest though I wouldn't want to build a layout quick. I tend to take my time. (Most of you have noticed this! :lol: ).
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby sjgarth » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:52 pm

I've just watched this and found it entertaining.
Missenden were clearly cheats and deserved to lose. However their layout was spectacular and showed what can be done with time.
Strangers on a model railway were worthy winners despite a large expanse of grass sheet, everything worked well.
Porthcawl were unfortunately beaten by time and could have won if they had finished everything.
I think the scratch build challenge was a good idea ruined by the chosen objects, a high heel shoe for God's sake. Should have given them something a little more useful.
As a complete novice myself, I do feel the chance to educate was missed. As a series they have time to show a little bit more detail of a skill each week. For example track laying week one, scenery construction week two, weathering week three etc.
All in all a good program which I will watch again.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby alex3410 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:01 am

sjgarth wrote:As a series they have time to show a little bit more detail of a skill each week. For example track laying week one, scenery construction week two, weathering week three etc.


I agree it did feel like it was missing something along these lines, all thats needed is enough to point people in the right direction.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby luckymucklebackit » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:20 am

sjgarth wrote:I think the scratch build challenge was a good idea ruined by the chosen objects, a high heel shoe for God's sake. Should have given them something a little more useful.


What I found interesting about the scratch build challenge was that the response of the competitors probably mirrored this sentiment and one team member was very outspoken on his negative thoughts on the choice of items that had to be used, while the rest just got one with trying to create something reasonably credible, fair play to the producers for allowing the guy to speak up and including it on the programme.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby alex3410 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:26 am

yer and then his team came up with the best use of the bits and won it :lol:

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby End2end » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:07 pm

I enjoyed the programme.
As previously mentioned the scratch build item given to the competitors was a bit random but I like the nissan hut/mine entrance thingy.
All in all I thought we would be treated to the stereotypical railway modelling rivet counters. In fact I found it quite the opposite i'm pleased to say.
And yes, although great, Missenden's confidence was ill placed because basically they cheated. :lol: Impressive though!
There was also (if they had all worked) some great ideas for making "action" cameos on a layout.
FINALLLY in the midst of all the, let's be honest, MORONIC CRAP tv something worthwhile watching.
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby CasperGriswoldBacon » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:37 pm

My main beef was the challenges. saw a trailer for the next one and its seems to be something involving blackadder! personally it would have been more interesting to me if it was like week 1: an engine shed week 2: mainline station etc.. 3 viaduct etc.. but then i guess you lose the appeal to the casual viewer. But then you get all sort of hobby and car shows where its quite serious with the actual technical side of the subject like wheeler dealers and they don't have restore the vehicle to look like the batman car to get the punters to watch.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby b308 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:42 am

alex3410 wrote:
sjgarth wrote:As a series they have time to show a little bit more detail of a skill each week. For example track laying week one, scenery construction week two, weathering week three etc.


I agree it did feel like it was missing something along these lines, all thats needed is enough to point people in the right direction.


I believe they did do something along those lines (some of the participants mentioned it over on RMW) but either there wasn't the time in the programme to include it, or it was felt that for the intended viewer (not us BTW!) it would have been a turn-off which TBH it probably would have been.


Several people have criticised the use of grass mat but I use it for all my layouts, often as a base on which I put selected areas of static grass. I think for them it was the right idea, the only thing they missed was to smooth it out a bit and tone down some areas, but i assume that, like the rest, they ran out of time. Grass mat seems to divide opinion amongst modellers, personally I feel that it's a real boon and enhances a layout when used correctly and is less likely to fade and feature bald patches where static grass is used exclusively. The one time when grass mat looks completely wrong is when it's used on flat surfaces, I don't think I've ever seen a perfectly flat field or meadow!

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby Alexander Court » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:55 am

b308 wrote: I don't think I've ever seen a perfectly flat field or meadow!


Have you never been to Norfolk?

I only caught the bit at the end where they were judging the layouts, loved the winning one and missendens was nice but could have been finished better. We don't have channel five saved on our sky box, we have to use trickery to get the channel on and you can't record shows either.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge

Postby alex3410 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:06 am

b308 wrote:I believe they did do something along those lines (some of the participants mentioned it over on RMW) but either there wasn't the time in the programme to include it, or it was felt that for the intended viewer (not us BTW!) it would have been a turn-off which TBH it probably would have been.


I can understand that, it still would have been nice just to show a small bit, I am thinking of the young kid and parent watching it thinking 'I want to try that', just to nudge the interest a bit more.

b308 wrote:Several people have criticised the use of grass mat but I use it for all my layouts, often as a base on which I put selected areas of static grass. I think for them it was the right idea, the only thing they missed was to smooth it out a bit and tone down some areas, but i assume that, like the rest, they ran out of time.


Honestly after seeing the grass mat in use i am really considering trying it for my layout, it looks ideal for a base to then add more detail to and i was actually impressed with how good it looked given the time.


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