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Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Tom@Crewe » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:39 am

I have just received 2 Bachmann 38-190B 10 Ton BR Insulated Van Light Blue.

Very nice But too blue, When you see them against the tone of the other wagons and layout the blue pop's out, they even stand out compared to the white wagons, I do want to keep them and plan to weather them.

Whats the best (Non Airbrush) way to tone them down?

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Bigmet » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:51 am

They really were 'sky blue' out of the paintshop. The traffic they were on was fast movement of perishables, so in common with all freight stock that spent its time whipped along at speed without any cleaning they quickly got coated with dirt which took the shine off and reduced the colour intensity.

A grey brown dirt tone is what I would go for, add a little iron oxide to this mix when applying it to the running gear to represent the brake shoe dust, a little black when applying it to the roof which tended to be significantly darker in tone than vehicle sides. If you are applying by brush, start with matt varnish = and check that it is matt on a test piece before starting! - and add drops of colour to make up the dirt mix. This will not gather so badly into plank gaps and around framing as dilute paint, and can be brushed out nicely to gradate the dirt to your taste.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Metr0Land » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:03 pm

A few variations (not necc the same diagram as your vans but evidence of the way the colour weathers/dirties)

https://flic.kr/p/6TGGjX
https://flic.kr/p/Z7Wcv5
https://flic.kr/p/CrAWey

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby luckymucklebackit » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:10 pm

Here is a superb example of a weathered model van, (not one of mine)

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Pennine MC » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:22 pm

Jim's picture is much closer to the true appearance of Ice Blue (its correct BR name). There's a glimpse of one I've done in the second photo down here:

https://windcutter.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-flying-kipper/

The OP's vans are turquoise; if I had those I'd be repainting them. Always easier to make a colour look darker than it is lighter

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Mountain » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:32 pm

I like your layout. :)

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Tom@Crewe » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:00 am

I have only applied Humbrol White powder but I am much happier with the colour.

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Need to try to get it off the chassis now!
Never enough time...........

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Mike Parkes » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:42 am

I use a wash of thinned black art shop acrylic with weathering powers mixed - spread it over the sides and then wipe most of it off -(you obviously can use other colour acrylics you prefer). Works very well on factory weathered stuff giving a added dimension and being acrylic based if it looks wrong, wash it off.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby carnehan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:24 pm

There are any number of methods to weather a van and tone down the colours. Acrylics are good, some use pastels and some even use the dirty sludge of paint thinners. There are loads of excellent examples of weathered stock on this very forum. Alternatively, check out YouTube where there are many how to videos. Kathy Millet and David Hyde are just two examples of demonstrating simple methods of weathering stock.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Tom@Crewe » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:11 pm

Here is my second attempt, On the first wagon I had not let the matt coat dry enough before applying powder.

I did not want to go too far or dirty as it needs to blend in with my factory weathered stock.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby carnehan » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:19 pm

Looks just right to me Tom.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby Bigmet » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:51 pm

Tom@Crewe wrote:...I did not want to go too far or dirty as it needs to blend in with my factory weathered stock.

It is entirely your taste that counts. But in reality you could see a bright newly painted vehicle right next to one with the dirt of years encrusted on it and hardly a hint of underlying paint colour And everything in between.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby luckymucklebackit » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:13 pm

Excellent weathering, really looking good.

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Re: Insulated Van Light Blue - TOO BLUE!

Postby stuartp » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:25 am

Bigmet wrote:
Tom@Crewe wrote:But in reality you could see a bright newly painted vehicle right next to one with the dirt of years encrusted on it and hardly a hint of underlying paint colour And everything in between.


Or indeed, on the same wagon:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrcrepell ... 691087@N24

Courtesy of m'learned friend Pennine MC who first posted this on another fourm a long time ago.
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