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Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Tom@Crewe » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:16 pm

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I have a few Bachmann weathered wagons they have light weathering and I have some other Hornby and Bachmann wagons that are not weathered. I also have an Airbrush which the air supply is from can's and the amount of airbrushing I in-visage I cant justify the cost of a compressor and all the associated items or the noise. But has anyone used one of these to power the Airbrush 'Draper RPS Expert 650CC Aluminium Refillable Pressure Sprayer' (https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/draper-rps-expert-650cc-aluminium-refillable-p/)

Q1. Has anyone used the refillable can's?
Q2. As I only want to start with a light weathering as with the Bachmann wagons would this set up work?
Q3. What colour would the over spray colour be? (prehaps sleeper grime I am not sure)
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby TimberSurf » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:35 pm

By the time you buy that and refills, you will have spent as much as an air compressor costs! They really are not that noisy and you will be amazed how quick air is used up! You can buy a direct feed compressor for the same price, or a Complete Airbrush Kit AS186 Compressor Tank and two airbrushes for £75!
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Tom@Crewe » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:42 pm

There are no refills that's the point you recharge it with a tyre pump.
I also said a compressor is too noisy for me.
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Dave » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:20 pm

Tom@Crewe wrote:There are no refills that's the point you recharge it with a tyre pump.

If you are only after a low pressure for light weathering you could achieve the same from a cheap car inner tube at a fraction of the cost.

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Postby End2end » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:43 pm

TimberSurf wrote:or a Complete Airbrush Kit AS186 Compressor Tank and two airbrushes for £75!

Would you have a link perchance please Timbersurf.
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Postby luckymucklebackit » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:09 pm

End2end wrote:
TimberSurf wrote:or a Complete Airbrush Kit AS186 Compressor Tank and two airbrushes for £75!

Would you have a link perchance please Timbersurf.
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Postby TimberSurf » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:52 pm

Yes thats the one, works fine and barely notice its on, as the reservoir lasts for minutes before a short burst of the compressor tops it up.
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Mountain » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 pm

Somewhere I have a little device where one can mix paint with lighter fuel and it works as a spray can. I have never tried it as yet. One of these days I may give it a go. :lol:

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Postby End2end » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:03 pm

Thanks for the link. :)
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Ironduke » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:32 pm

Dave wrote:
Tom@Crewe wrote:There are no refills that's the point you recharge it with a tyre pump.

If you are only after a low pressure for light weathering you could achieve the same from a cheap car inner tube at a fraction of the cost.

I've used an old car wheel before and the adapters are very cheap
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby m.levin » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:06 am

Ironduke wrote:I've used an old car wheel before and the adapters are very cheap


What about inflatable crocs Rob??

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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Peterm » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:20 am

Using a car tyre or a foot pump to pump up a canister means you have moisture in the air brush which can ruin your job. A pump in the garage to blow up a tyre or canister probably hasn't got a moisture trap and your foot pump certainly won't. A compressor with a tank is probably the best way to go if you can afford it.
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Postby Ironduke » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:37 am

m.levin wrote:
Ironduke wrote:I've used an old car wheel before and the adapters are very cheap


What about inflatable crocs Rob??


The footwear or the reptile? In either case I think "yes".
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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Buggleskelly » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:57 am

Just read some reviews of the refillable can you mention, and it seems you only get about 25 seconds worth of pressure per charge. A chap used one to blow dust out of a PC tower, and it took him four refills to complete the job. The pressure decreases as it is released, so you won't have a consistent pressure and hence finish with the airbrush.
Overall the AS 186 compressor mentioned elsewhere is probably the most practical solution. I use one myself and have had no problems with noise as it is fairly quiet when charging the tank, and obviously silent when using, only starting up again when the tank pressure falls below a set level. After 30 mins continuous use, I found the cylinder head gets a tad warm, but that's probably normal for compressors I think, but a 30 min session is quite long. I have also used those so called cheap Chinese airbrushes, and have used a double action gravity feed brush costing less than £10 with no problems. The compressor comes with a moisture trap/regulator, which you need. But have never had problems, or seen any moisture in the UK climate I use it in. The cheapest I have seen for the AS186 compressor and airbrush on Amazon is £68, which I think is very good value. You can always upgrade the airbrush as you gain experience.
n.b a large 750ml Badger air propellant is about £15. Expensive, but if you only need an occasional puff with the brush, maybe that's okay. But the can chills with propellant use, and loses pressure if used for more than a quick session (hence why some modelers dangerously risk putting the cans in hot water).

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Re: Weathering/Airbrush/Bachmann/Air Supply Question

Postby Tom@Crewe » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:46 am

Thanks for all the advice and opinions, I have considered all and decided to bin my airbrush and canisters.
I will go back to paints, washes and weathering powders.
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