new underframe for Lima wagons?

Ask questions or give advice on any other model railway Manufacturers and Gauges
George Stein
Posts: 190
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:47 am

new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby George Stein » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:54 pm

I was recently given a batch of Lima 4-wheel open wagons (e.g., "Claycross, etc.). I would like to use the bodies but replace the rather basic under-frames & oversize wheels. Please recommend: Dapol, Ratio, Peco, Parkside-Dundas, etc.???? Which provides the "proper" underframing for converting these wagons? Thanks.

Brossard
Posts: 303
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:37 am
Location: Brossard, QC

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby Brossard » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:27 pm

I'm assuming here that the wagons are Private Owner (PO), 9' wheelbase and unfitted as these are the most common. These tended to have common designs spec'ed by the Railway Clearing House (RCH). I would therefore recommend the Slater's/Coopercraft 1923 RCH 9' WB underframe kit S4046: http://shop.cooper-craft.co.uk/index.ph ... =4a&page=3

Image

The kit contains solebars, floor and buffer beams. There are no instructions but the underframe is pretty simple. Note that there are no wheels and the axleboxes will need pinpoint bearings. For wheels you can use the 12mm (3' 0") spoked wheels from Hornby or Bachmann. Bearings can be obtained from Eileens Emporium https://www.eileensemporium.com/ or Mainly Trains http://www.mainlytrains.co.uk/acatalog/index.html, both of whom ship to NA.

While you're there, have a look at the other wagon kits on offer - these are very good and do come with transfers (at least the ones I have do).

Here's a discussion on PO wagons: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/4-rstock/powag1.htm

John
John

User avatar
6C
Posts: 1256
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:45 pm
Location: Pingvollr, dans le Wirrale

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby 6C » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:18 pm

Don't forget Dapol chassis only - ready assembled, with 9, 10 and 11ft wheelbases :

http://dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=prod ... _60_85_158
Pete

Fetch me a bottle of your finest Chateau Bichon Frise '65 !!

Pennine MC
Posts: 654
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:23 am

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby Pennine MC » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:42 pm

Brossard wrote:I'm assuming here that the wagons are Private Owner (PO), 9' wheelbase and unfitted as these are the most common.


And here it gets complicated :) - are the Lima wagons correct scale length, or are they (like most old generation RTR) stretched by 4mm to fit a standard 10ft wb/17'6 o/h chassis?

Brossard
Posts: 303
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:37 am
Location: Brossard, QC

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby Brossard » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:50 pm

Indeed Ian, there's not a lot to go on in the OP. A picture of the wagon positioned over a ruler would be useful.

John
John

User avatar
stuartp
Posts: 1079
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:40 pm

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby stuartp » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:13 pm

They're stretched - the three I have here (7 plank minerals) are 70mm over bodies, so 17'6" scale length, they should be 16'6". Mine are all Evo-sticked onto reclaimed Mainline/Bachmann 10' wb chassis. (I will eventually get round to drawing manic faces on the ends to go behind my lad's Thomas -just in case Pennine is wondering where the finescale edge went from my bodging !).

Cambrian do a 9'wb chassis with a choice of solebar lengths to fit 16'6" or 17'6" chassis (their ref C35), just build it directly onto the wagon floor starting with the headstocks. If wb is not that important given that they are compromised anyway then most Bachmann/Mainline/Dapol 10' wb chassis should fit although you might have to file stray sticky-out bits off the get them sitting level.
Portwilliam - Southwest Scotland in the 1960s, in OO - http://stuart1968.wordpress.com/

Bigmet
Posts: 6892
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:19 pm

Re: new underframe for Lima wagons?

Postby Bigmet » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:26 am

As Stuart: the simplest route will be a RTR 17'6" over headstocks chassis, such as the Dapol spares Pete links to in the post further up thread.

If the kit representation of a wooden underframe is chosen this will require modification of body or kit headstocks to accomodate the the headstocks which stand 1mm higher than the tops of the solebars. Easiest solution, cement a 40 thou deck of plasticard on top of the solebars providing a level top to the chassis on which the RTR body then sits.


Return to “Other Model Railway Manufacturers and Gauges”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest