Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

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Re: As exotic as it gets, EE Gas Turbine 3

Postby D605Eagle » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:34 am

Chops wrote:That really is a project among projects. Truly an engaging piece, but a bit large for my little roundy-round. I hope for its great success. I hope, and interesting side note, the Union Pacific, always interested in larger and larger power, developed a gas turbine between 1952 and 1961. The exhaust went out the roof, and there is a story that the unit once parked under a highway overpass for a period of time, at idle. The heat from the exhaust melted the asphalt, rendering the road unusable!

They used a fuel I forget the name of that was effectively a waste product and cost virtually nothing. It was the development of cracking that gave it a valuer and rendered the gas turbines too expensive to run. Have any survived?

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Re: As exotic as it gets, EE Gas Turbine 3

Postby Chops » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:21 am

I found a reference to one in preservation as of 2008. How the word "gas," the slang for "petrol" got into usage I'll never know. Per the article it used
a fuel known as "Bunker C," which to my understanding is slightly better than sludge. The Bunker C was replaced by an even worse byproduct, but it was even cheaper, except that it corroded the turbines with the amount of dirt in it, one supposes.
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Re: As exotic as it gets, EE Gas Turbine 3

Postby D605Eagle » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:40 pm

I've often wondered that. I believe many moons ago Diesel used to be called gas oil, or was that parafin? (kerosene)

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Re: As exotic as it gets, EE Gas Turbine 3

Postby Buelligan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm

Chops wrote:I found a reference to one in preservation as of 2008. How the word "gas," the slang for "petrol" got into usage I'll never know. Per the article it used
a fuel known as "Bunker C," which to my understanding is slightly better than sludge. The Bunker C was replaced by an even worse byproduct, but it was even cheaper, except that it corroded the turbines with the amount of dirt in it, one supposes.


Not sure whether this is true or not, I don't know, but I seem to remember hearing Stephen Fry explain that there was an American who struck oil, and created 'Cazeline", exported it around the world, but was copied by an Irishman, who changed the 'C', to a 'G', and created 'Gazeline'. Gazeline became Gasoline, Cazeline died out.


I'm normally a fan of steam engine's but this particular engine looks interesting. Though without any hint of final price (unless I've missed it somewhere), I won't be putting my name down.

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Re: Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

Postby pete b » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:09 pm

I would love to sign up for a 00 version of GT3 having seen her on test between Whitchurch and Chester in 1963 but am a bit wary of committing moniesin in these days of internet fraud etc. and having no UK contact number or address. Must be more like me out there or am I just being paranoid.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: As exotic as it gets, EE Gas Turbine 3

Postby TimberSurf » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:20 pm

Bufferstop wrote:Where will they get the recorded sound from? There's nothing remotely like it that's running. There's the experimental APT but that was a turbine with electric transmission.
The could always come down to Lumsdonia and record the JETSTAR! :lol:


Chops wrote:That really is a project among projects. Truly an engaging piece, but a bit large for my little roundy-round. I hope for its great success. I hope, and interesting side note, the Union Pacific, always interested in larger and larger power, developed a gas turbine between 1952 and 1961. The exhaust went out the roof, and there is a story that the unit once parked under a highway overpass for a period of time, at idle. The heat from the exhaust melted the asphalt, rendering the road unusable!


Good point Chops, I will have to remember that for JETSTAR!
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Re: Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

Postby Bigmet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:16 am

pete b wrote:I would love to sign up for a 00 version of GT3 having seen her on test between Whitchurch and Chester in 1963 but am a bit wary of committing monies in in these days of internet fraud etc. and having no UK contact number or address...

This is one of those 'your call' decisions. There is a risk, because money is required up front and there is much uncertainty in the world. I would ask myself three questions:
Can I afford to lose the money if it all went wrong?
Do I really want a model of this locomotive?
Will I feel annoyed if I don't go for it, the project succeeds, and then there's only the option of hoping to make a potentially more expensive s/h purchase to get one? (No guarantee of a follow up production run for retail sale, little to no likelihood of anyone else ever producing such a model.)

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Re: Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

Postby pete b » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:39 am

Many thanks Bigmet. I think you are right on all counts. A difficult one .

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Re: Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

Postby Jim S-W » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:18 pm

You could always just build one http://www.goldenarrow.me.uk/products.htm

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Re: Crowd funded proposal for EE Gas Turbine 3 in OO

Postby Bigmet » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:24 pm

I believe that is now the easiest of what have to be DIY options, as the list for the RTR model has now closed and there's no guarantee of a second run. Or there's take a Lima 20 body and a standard 5 mechanism and commence with the extensive modifications, for those wanting more of a test. And the full on heroic scratch build is always there for the really ambitious. (I freely confess that decent RTR OO has made me very lazy, and I now only make items that I am certain will never get a RTR OO model.)


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