Hornby Class 56 mystery

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Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby 47FAN » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:14 pm

Hi all,

A while ago. I bought a second hand Hornby class 56 at a fair, it looked a nice loco, complete with the new type of Hornby packaging, and slots nicely into the tray. On closer inspection when arriving home, I noticed that it seemed slightly different, so I turned it upside down to see the word Mainline written underneath!. I cant complain as it was at the end of the day and the dealer let me have it at the bargain price of £20. The strange thing is the body is indeed a Hornby one (large logo 56 101), the chassis has been fitted very well, and is no bodge job. Not sure if this was fitted from new, or someone has swapped bodies, which seems the more likely. If so, it has been done professionally, no working lights, but still a good runner. Although it does not take kindly to Peco points. Can anyone solve this mystery?

Paul

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby poliss » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:43 pm

The Airfix Railway Systems website might clarify some details. http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/gmr.htm

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby K9-70 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:57 pm

Mainline/Palitoy introduced the Class 56 locomotive in 1983 in two livery versions.
937035 #56079 BR Blue small arrow logo
973044 #56084 BR Blue large arrow logo

When Mainline/Palitoy closed down in 1985, David Boyle (Dapol) was offered the intellectual assets of Palitoy's Mainline Railways range and reintroduced the Class 56 under the Dapol brand name.
D12 #56079 BR Blue small arrow logo ex Mainline model 1985-98
D13 #56086 BR Blue large arrow logo ex Mainline model 1985-93
Other Class 56 models produced by Dapol
D12 #56077 BR Blue small arrow logo ?
D14 #56077 BR Blue small arrow logo 1994-95
D81 unpainted grey 1989-93
D80 #56001 BR Construction grey 1989-98
D14A #56064 Railfreight grey 1989-98
D14B #56068 Railfreight grey 1989-98
D14 #56075 Railfreight red stripe 1985-88
D14C #56090 Railfreight grey 1989-96
D104 #56094 Railfreight Coal Sector grey 1991-95
Around 1996 Dapol offered some of the tools to Bachmann, but these were subsequently sold to Hornby.
Since 1998 Hornby have produced 30 ? versions of the Class 56 in various liveries.
Your loco; R2235A #56101 BR Blue large arrow logo was made in 2001.

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby Metadyneman » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:37 am

I would suggest that the model you have purchased is a hybrid of one of the original Palitoy (mainline) Chassis and a new Hornby body. If the model was entirely Hornby it would almost certainly have the Hornby trademark underneath.
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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby K9-70 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:27 pm

Metadyneman wrote:I would suggest that the model you have purchased is a hybrid of one of the original Palitoy (mainline) Chassis and a new Hornby body. If the model was entirely Hornby it would almost certainly have the Hornby trademark underneath.


Correct, Metadyneman. It's unlikely that Hornby would have released the Class 56 with the Mainline trademark still on the chassis.
My guess is that the previous owner simply swapped the old Mainline body/chassis for the newer updated Hornby body/chassis.

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby son of triangman » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:09 am

I agree, it looks like a hybrid has been made by someone. Very unlikely the old Mainline name would be left on the chassis however stranger things have happened, the first China made re-release of the SR utility van still had the Tri-ang brand on the chassis!

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby 47FAN » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:44 pm

Thanks everyone, as I first thought, a hybrid. But a splendid job has been done as a result by somebody, the snug fit with the body and chassis is perfect.

Paul

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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby 50035 Ark Royal » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:50 pm

I would not have been haapy no working lights :shock: :lol:
seriously though you got a bragain at £20 i have seen Mainline and Dapol ones go for more than this on ebay.
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Re: Hornby Class 56 mystery

Postby son of triangman » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:34 pm

I totally agree a real bargin there, they go for silly money on Ebay at present.


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