Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Discuss Hornby Model Railway products and related topics here. This includes (Lima, Rivarossi, Jouef, Electrotren).
User avatar
Splop.
Posts: 349
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:18 pm
Location: Was West Bromwich, now living in Tipton

Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby Splop. » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:41 pm

I want to try and add lights to my old class 25, but I don't want to attack it without some sort of help, otherwise I may ruin what is one of the best diesels I have.

I've taken some pictures if anybody here can help.

The wiring.
Image

The bulbs, wrapped in what looks like a heatsink jacket
Image

The loco's motor
Image

Thanks.

David.

steviesparx
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:06 pm
Location: LONDON

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby steviesparx » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:40 am

Do mean add new lights, or reinstate the original headcode lighting ?

User avatar
Splop.
Posts: 349
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:18 pm
Location: Was West Bromwich, now living in Tipton

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby Splop. » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:29 pm

steviesparx wrote:Do mean add new lights, or reinstate the original headcode lighting ?


New lights, although I did hear the BR blue version had them fitted from the factory.

User avatar
6C
Posts: 1304
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:45 pm
Location: Pingvollr, dans le Wirrale

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby 6C » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:33 pm

steviesparx wrote:Do mean add new lights, or reinstate the original headcode lighting ?


I think that had been deleted by then.... I've had this version as well as the headcode lit version.... both from new
Pete

Fetch me a bottle of your finest Chateau Bichon Frise '65 !!

User avatar
K9-70
Posts: 181
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: N.Ireland
Contact:

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby K9-70 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:51 am

The early versions of the blue and green Class 25 fitted with the headcode box had lights fitted to ilumate the headcode box.

The later version of the blue Class 25 with the two white discs didn't have the lights fitted.

K9-70
The Rides the "REASON" the "DESTINATION" is only an "EXCUSE" :-).

User avatar
6C
Posts: 1304
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:45 pm
Location: Pingvollr, dans le Wirrale

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby 6C » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:57 am

K9-70 wrote:The early versions of the blue and green Class 25 fitted with the headcode box had lights fitted to ilumate the headcode box.

The later version of the blue Class 25 with the two white discs didn't have the lights fitted.

K9-70

I have a green 25 'D7571' which had no lighting .....
Pete

Fetch me a bottle of your finest Chateau Bichon Frise '65 !!

User avatar
K9-70
Posts: 181
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: N.Ireland
Contact:

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby K9-70 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:09 pm

6C wrote:
K9-70 wrote:The early versions of the blue and green Class 25 fitted with the headcode box had lights fitted to ilumate the headcode box.

The later version of the blue Class 25 with the two white discs didn't have the lights fitted.

K9-70

I have a green 25 'D7571' which had no lighting .....


Br Green, both models came with directional lights that operated in the direction of travel.
1977/79 R072 #D7596
1980/83 R327 #D7571
This model was not produced between 1984 & 87.

Br Blue, both models came with directional lights that operated in the direction of travel, except for the 1984 model.
1977/79 R068 #25 247
1980/83 R326 #25 241
1984 R326 #25 241 No lights fitted.

When both models where reintroduced again in 1987, neither of the Green/Blue models had directional lights fitted.

It is possible that the lights on your model have been removed at sometime in the past.

K9-70
The Rides the "REASON" the "DESTINATION" is only an "EXCUSE" :-).

steviesparx
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:06 pm
Location: LONDON

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby steviesparx » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:59 pm

Yes, but none had headlights fitted, just the headcode box, with or without the headcode or two dot blank code...

I think the OP wants to add marker lights, similar to the Bachmann 25 - He has all the original parts for reinstating the existing headcode box lighting in the pictures above...

User avatar
K9-70
Posts: 181
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: N.Ireland
Contact:

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby K9-70 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:42 pm

steviesparx wrote:Yes, but none had headlights fitted, just the headcode box, with or without the headcode or two dot blank code...

I think the OP wants to add marker lights, similar to the Bachmann 25 - He has all the original parts for reinstating the existing headcode box lighting in the pictures above...


Hornby Service Sheet 107 shows the position of the wiring for the lights.

http://www.modeltrains.net.au/hornby/se ... sheetid=36

If the O/P wishes to add tail lights to his Class 25, try Express Models.
http://www.expressmodels.co.uk/acatalog/

K9-70
The Rides the "REASON" the "DESTINATION" is only an "EXCUSE" :-).

User avatar
Splop.
Posts: 349
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:18 pm
Location: Was West Bromwich, now living in Tipton

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby Splop. » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:41 am


User avatar
6C
Posts: 1304
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:45 pm
Location: Pingvollr, dans le Wirrale

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby 6C » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:50 am

K9-70 wrote:
6C wrote:
K9-70 wrote:The early versions of the blue and green Class 25 fitted with the headcode box had lights fitted to ilumate the headcode box.

The later version of the blue Class 25 with the two white discs didn't have the lights fitted.

K9-70

I have a green 25 'D7571' which had no lighting .....


Br Green, both models came with directional lights that operated in the direction of travel.
1977/79 R072 #D7596
1980/83 R327 #D7571
This model was not produced between 1984 & 87.

Br Blue, both models came with directional lights that operated in the direction of travel, except for the 1984 model.
1977/79 R068 #25 247
1980/83 R326 #25 241
1984 R326 #25 241 No lights fitted.

When both models where reintroduced again in 1987, neither of the Green/Blue models had directional lights fitted.

It is possible that the lights on your model have been removed at sometime in the past.

K9-70


Eeek! I have d7571 in the green body - but marked R068...
Pete

Fetch me a bottle of your finest Chateau Bichon Frise '65 !!

steviesparx
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:06 pm
Location: LONDON

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby steviesparx » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:58 pm

6C wrote:
Eeek! I have d7571 in the green body - but marked R068...


Pretty sure ALL Hornby 25's are marked as R068 - The boxes carried the alternative stock numbers, the bodies carried alternative liveries and running numbers, but I believe all the plastic chassis were the same...

User avatar
K9-70
Posts: 181
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: N.Ireland
Contact:

Re: Hornby Class 25 (circa late 80's)

Postby K9-70 » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:15 pm

That would be correct,
All Class 25's chassis's mfd between 1979 & 2001 would have used the same manufacturing moulds with
the same part numbers except for the body would have had an extra number added to the roof to identify
the mould/year it was produced.
I have two Class 25's in my collection.
1977-79 R068 25 247 BR Blue (Non paint finish) body number, R068 010, chassis number R068 060
R877 25 **** BR Blue (Painted finish) body number, R068 010 + S9667, chassis number R068 060
R877 was a un-numbered version and a sheet of numbers was supplied for you to choose your own number.

From 2001 when a newer version of the Class 25 was released new part numbers would have been issued for the body and chassis.

K9-70
The Rides the "REASON" the "DESTINATION" is only an "EXCUSE" :-).


Return to “Hornby - including Lima, Rivarossi, Jouef, Electrotren”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests