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Heljan Class 57 - Improving Lighting and DCC

Postby rmg1919 on Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:00 pm

A while ago I purchased a Heljan Class 57 and after having seen how much an improvement some bright white LEDs make to the model (see picture below from the excellent Norwood Park) I decided to embark upon the project myself.

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Removing the body was easy enough (Electric Nose provides a good guide to removing the body on Heljan 47/57s).

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It was soon clear where the lights were located and that they are evidently just plain grain of wheat style bulbs as indicated in the photo below. The 'red' tail lights are the result of red lenses in the body, with the plain light being shone to them through the holes marked in the photo. There is, therefore, a further bulb hidden somewhere out of sight.

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What was not so clear was how to gain access to the two main bulbs secured in place below what would seem to be some superglued plastic.

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The plastic is however not stuck down by anything substantial - and I found that by inserting the edge of a small chisel in the gap between the chassis and the plastic was more than enough to lift the plastic lid off the chassis.

The sight was somewhat surprising:

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On careful inspection it became clear that at some point in the manufacturing process my poor Heljan 57 came very close to having no 'white' lights at all - look at the damage to the black cable (zoomed in the photo above). In fact, with the core of the wire exposed, it is possible that the actual chassis was almost 'live'. I've also just realised that only one end of the loco has sprung buffers - is this usual??

Returning to the case at hand, it is therefore quite clear how to improve the lighting - simply swap out the bulbs for superbright white LEDs.

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The actual fitting of these will have to wait until next week though - as I will, at the same time, add the DCC decoder to the loco.

Watch this space. Hope this is of use to people. Would also appreciate any thoughts on things so far: namely the half-present sprung buffers?
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Postby mortyfootball on Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:09 pm

Nice to see an article covering the re-lighting, I might be doing this soon so this will help a lot. I'm assuming that the 47 will be the same method to change the lights?

As for the buffers, I hadn't noticed that but will check my 47 next week to see if it is the same.

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Postby rmg1919 on Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:18 pm

mortyfootball wrote:Nice to see an article covering the re-lighting, I might be doing this soon so this will help a lot. I'm assuming that the 47 will be the same method to change the lights?


I suspect it will be pretty much identical - provided it's a Heljan.

As for the buffers, I hadn't noticed that but will check my 47 next week to see if it is the same.


That would be great, thanks.
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Postby mortyfootball on Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:40 pm

Anyone know if the 57 and 47 body shells can be interchanged on the Heljan models?

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Postby rmg1919 on Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:25 pm

mortyfootball wrote:Anyone know if the 57 and 47 body shells can be interchanged on the Heljan models?


I suspect they probably can (as I believe the Heljan 47 bodies are 2mm wider than they should be on each side too?) - but that you may need to rework the lighting somewhat.

So, while a 47 body would probably snap on the chassis ok, you might need to figure out how to get the lights shining out the right places!
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Postby mortyfootball on Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:26 pm

Just that I've seen that special price at Rails and it is much cheaper than the 47's, so hopefully a body change is al that's needed, and a mess around wth the lights.

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Postby rmg1919 on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:20 pm

I was hoping to have received all my bits and pieces by now - but for some reason the Royal Mail have decided not to deliver any parcels this week... if I'm lucky they'll arrive tomorrow and I'll be able to finish this on Sunday...
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Postby mortyfootball on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:21 pm

Funny that, a loco sent yesterday 2nd class arrived here today!
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Postby rmg1919 on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:24 pm

mortyfootball wrote:Funny that, a loco sent yesterday 2nd class arrived here today!


It's not mine is it ;-)

Rails sent a load of stuff on Monday, and still no sign. Electronics ordered last week and still no sign... though I received the invoice for them through the post the other day.

If it all doesn't arrive tomorrow, I'm going to be rather worried!

Did you manage to check the sprung buffers on your 47?
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Postby mortyfootball on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:27 pm

Funny thing about my parcel is that it is a Heljan 47!

And no it doesn't have any sprung buffers! Damn!
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Postby rmg1919 on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:40 pm

mortyfootball wrote:And no it doesn't have any sprung buffers! Damn!


I did see somewhere online selling Heljan buffer springs... 10pence each or something. I might buy two to finish off the buffers on my 57. Might be worth seeing if they fit a 47? Will let you know when I find the link again.
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Postby mortyfootball on Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:43 pm

Cheers, might get some now
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Postby rmg1919 on Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:23 am

Well, I spent today trying out various methods of 'relighting' the Heljan 57.

One significant problem is that space is rather tight, so you have to be incredibly accurate. At one point today I had both a 'red' and both 'white' lights installed on one end.

However, I was unhappy with the result and so proceeded to start again. Many hours later, I had gone full circle again. I am certainly happy with the LEDs, just not happy with how they fit into the chassis at present.

A further problem, related to space, is that everything must be insulated or else the chassis goes live and you end up with all sorts of fun and games.

The lights in the roof are easy enough to fix - so I suppose I am 1/3 of the way there.

For the other lights, the 'red' one is the next easiest, while the 'white' one is particularly tricky as to get the full benefit of the LED one needs to have the LED pointing 'out' rather than 'down' which then leads to a problem with the body - the white headlights have to be removed, and the bit that sticks out needs to be shortened.

It's a lot harder than I thought it would be, but I'm getting there... slowly.

Something that will help is a very fine soldering iron tip. Mine is rather 'large' so will need to pick up a fine tip and should hopefully make the process a lot easier.

A couple photos... Not very good:

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More to follow - once I've figured out the best way to light it.
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Postby rmg1919 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:15 pm

Been spending a bit more time on the 57 and have so far managed to setup one end of the loco with the improved lighting. As the photos below show, it is a definite improvement. I'm still not 100% happy with the two lower white lights... Anyway, photos below.

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Excuse the soldering evident in the last photo... really poor effort... :oops: :oops: :oops:
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